Remember this is intended as info to assist you in harm reduction. If you must do meth at least do it the safest way possible. Go to the drugs-forum website and any question you have about any drug will be answered there. It’s a huge data base of info on all drugs. Be safe.
This information in no way is intended for the reader to use ISO or to purchase it except for research only. This chemical ISO as well as all other illegal substances should be avoided at all cost due to the damage they can cause to human and animals. The information listed below was obtained at https://drugs-forum.com/
The purpose of this website is harm reduction. To educate drug users and non drug users the safest way to do drugs. Hopefully this will reduce the number of deaths each year that are attributed to drug use. Why do you think they call it dope!
First off I am not a doctor, drug counselor, scientist or teacher. I am just another unwilling test subject like you. Being tricked into buying this imitation of a substance that I have grown quite fond of has been a traumatic experience. I guess you could say that’s sad or whatever, but drugs are one of my hobbies, I don’t just partake in getting high like most. I crave all of the knowledge possible about them, possibly even more than the drug itself.
I first bought this chemical because I have never seen or had any interactions with it before. Then I didn’t have the knowledge to tell it apart from the real stuff. I’ve wasted too much money, time, health and frustration with this garbage. So I made it my job to collect everything I could about this research chemical. Unfortunately there’s really not much information on it. For a lot of it I’ve had to rely on myself and others. My goal of this report that I’ve compiled is to prevent others from purchasing this garbage by giving them the best information available and hope they make the right decisions about it. Together we can stop this epidemic of fake meth and keep it off the streets. Knowledge is power and power is what you do with it.
So stay safe. I’ve already experienced most of the side effects, at least I hope so, and have seen other people go through what I haven’t so far. All of this information has been gathered over some time from legitimate websites and other people’s real life experiences including my own. So just be aware that most of this may not be actual scientific proof, it has been experienced by real people mistakenly (some purposely) using this world-wide increasingly popular dangerous chemical. This being said doesn’t mean you should disregard all of this and go off and use it. Just think about what you’re reading and remember that all of this has happened to individuals just like yourself
*****Important note regarding dosage given throughout this report*****
-Dosage amounts mentioned are based on random users and feedback from experiences they’ve had. Amounts are different with everyone. However a threshold dose of 25 mg has been accurately determined from numerous users. Contributing factors affecting the dose could include body weight, gender, age, past drug use, daily habits affecting health, mental health issues, genetics, physical health condition, and possibly tolerance. Not forgetting other unknown factors not yet thought of. Tolerance with this chemical itself is something to yet be determined. Assuming its presence is probably safe considering nearly every chemical has some type of tolerance. Cross-tolerance with methamphetamine does not seem applicable but no scientific studies have been done to prove this either way. Still, it’s not safe to be blasting huge amounts into your body because of possible overdose.
-Overdose and fatal amounts haven’t been determined either. Some severe side effects are similar to a stimulant overdose so it could also be assumed that the overdose of ISO is a reality. However, some of the severe side effects have been witnessed lasting multiple days and having different intensities intermittently throughout.
=========Appearance==========
-Cloudy crystals with/out clear spots
-Slight grayish color is noticeable when compared right next to real meth shards
-Can come in large crystals which encourages buyer to purchase bag
-Sometimes has a wet or oily appearance to the shards
-Brittle crystals break into multiple pieces or crumble and form some powder
-Crystals are generally longer like mini railroad ties
-Edges are less jagged, flat, and straight
-Crystals tend to be rectangular shaped, more similar to Epsom salt pieces than meth shards
-No smell is available, however, there could be a faint chemical smell when “wet”
-Bitter when tasted, unlike meth, which is extremely bitter & slightly numbing
-Main difference between meth shards is the shape and structural integrity
==========Preparation==========
-Crushes easily into powder
-Water soluble but needs to be crushed and stirred to fully dissolve
-Anything that doesn’t instantly dissolve is cutting agent(s)
-Not as hygroscopic (doesn’t absorb water well) as meth
-Using 20 units of water with 60 mg or more of ISO will cause a syrup-like consistency
-Feels slick, slimy, or oily when rubbed on fingers. Similar to meth
-Can be be drawn through 31 gauge syringe when it has the syrup-like consistency
-Clear liquid, although, a very faint cloudiness will be noticeable when inspected
-Draws back approximately 150% or 30 units of initial solution when 100 mg of ISO is used
-If injected slowly when thick the rush will start just after the needle gets pulled out
-Does not burn when a thick shot is injected, however, it’s thought to be corrosive to veins
**It’s strongly advised to thin out the shot with at least 10 units of H2O to bring the needles contents to about 40 units. You can use more if you like**
==========IV RoA High==========
**Enjoyable effects of ISO high**
(High lasts from 10 to 120 minutes, depending on dose)
-Cold throat sensation (indicating onset of rush)
-Moderately strong rush (lasting 5-30 seconds)
-Increased energy (can be productive)
-Slight mood enhancement (uncommon)
-Brief sexual stimulation (usually in males)
-Talkative (50/50 chance of this)
==========Negative Side Effects==========
**During High**
(Lasts from 10 to 120 minutes)
-Feeling twacked out, sketchy, weird or just not right
-Feeling jittery or buzzing
-Tremors or quivering in the hands
–Bruxism or excessive teeth chattering
-Blurred or shaky vision
-Tunnel vision and/or seeing stars
-Dilated pupils
-Tingles all over head
-Ringing in ears
-Desire to keep moving
-Fidgeting with things
-Nervousness
-Anxiety
-Paranoia
-Forgetfulness and confusion
-Impaired cognitive ability
-Difficulty concentrating
-Loss of coordination
-Numb and painful areas on limbs
-Increased body temperature
-Mild sweating
-Long lasting erection, can be painful
-Increased heart rate
**Lasting Effects After High**
(lasting from 1 to 24 hours normally)
-Smaller than normal appetite but still apparent
-Cravings for methamphetamine high
-Desire to use as replacement until real meth is found
-Decreased short term memory
-Unproductive or lazy
-Electrical shock-like feeling through limbs
-Increased anxiety
-Drowsiness and fatigue
-Increased yawning and stretching
-Muscle tightness
-Numbness in fingers or toes
-Headaches, sometimes even migraines
-Tingling sensation in head, limbs or hands
–Hypertension
-Increased heart rate*
-Bloating or stomach discomfort
-Diarrhea
-Heartburn or acid re-flux like symptoms
**Severe Side Effects**
(For some, serious side effects may last up to 72 hours.)
-Fainting or passing out
-Irregular heart beat*
-Heart palpitations
–Heart arrhythmia
-Tightness in chest*
-Sharp pains in heart or chest area
-Shortness of breath or shallow breathing
-Pulmonary embolism possible when injected intravenously
-Blue or purple coloring of the skin (indicates this could be acquired methemoglobinemia, a blood disorder that makes the hemoglobin unable to carry oxygen or it could be hypoxia)
-Painful feelings in internal organs (spleen, heart, kidney, stomach, lungs etc.)
-Thinking you’re going to die
-Feelings of impending death
*Note – Reports of cardiac problems have included symptoms lasting months
==========Proper Identification of n-isopropylbenzylamine==========
Identifying the product should be the first thing you do before you make a purchase, however not every transaction allows you to test it. Always try to meet your dealer in your house or his and tell him you need to test it out. He should be cool with it unless he knows it’s bunk, then he’ll usually get defensive, make excuses and attempt to leave. In that case, good. You saved your time because you won’t want it anyways. Testing your meth isn’t really as hard as everyone thinks. Here are six methods to determine if what you are about to buy or have just bought is ISO:
**Visual Test**
Not the easiest to perfect, but very effective once you do. ISO crystals have a distinct growth to them. They’re elongated and have flat straight sides, not jagged like a mountain. Similar to french fries or a rail-road tie or a fence post, rectangular. You get it. They’re also cloudy and white with a few see-through clear spots in them. Meth shards as I’m sure you know, are clear and sparkle and have small spots of impurities that appear as cloudy spots. The real meth shards will be jagged and very few straight flat sides. They’re all different unique shapes kind of like small ice bergs or shards of glass… Yeah, sometimes they can be longer like the ISO pieces but they’re generally not, plus the majority of ISO crystals are long and flat so it’s real easy to tell them apart if you know what to look for. If you dump a bag of ISO out on a table or a plate and look at it eye level you can see how they’re all pretty much the same height and square. Stay away from that when you’re trying to buy some.
**Crush Test**
This is an easy but effective test to determine if you have ISO. Take out a crystal about the size of a kernel of popcorn. Put it on a hard surface then press the flat pad of your index finger onto the crystal with just a little more pressure than it takes to pick it up by having it stick to your finger for a moment. This usually causes it to break if its ISO. But if it doesn’t, don’t stop and think its real. Go ahead and press harder until it gives. Real meth will take some force to crack, if you’re even able to break it like that. The key is to see how it breaks, ISO crystals are more brittle than meth which cause them to crumble by putting a little pressure on it. Some of it will turn into powder, or dust (hence the street name, dust) and other parts turn into pieces about the size of a grain of rice. A meth shard wont do that. It will break in half or maybe thirds depending on where the pressure is focused on the crystal’s surface and existing fracture lines. Another easy way is by just pinching it between your thumb and index finger pretty hard. The same rules apply, if it crumbles into pieces it’s ISO, if it doesn’t break at all or in half then you’ve most likely found some legit meth. But use other tests to be positive before consuming. You can combine both of these methods together while in your dealers presence for a discreet little test. You can take a crystal out of the bag using your fingers to pinch it pretty hard. Then just place it in your palm or preferably a hard surface and look at the results. To the dealer it’ll look like you’re just examining or admiring the shard. If it survives, test it again by picking it up using the first crush test method and place back into the bag, observing the end result. Make sure when you pick it up using pressure, you actually try to break it. The resulting pieces really make the determination of the test. This is one of the best and easiest ways, plus it’s also pretty discreet. So remember, “If it easily breaks its usually fake, If there is no dust, to buy you must.”
**Taste Test**
There are two ways you can taste the crystals to tell if it’s fake. The first one is the ideal, safer method. The other is a last resort that we shouldn’t ever need to use. It’s pretty basic, you just grab a tiny crystal, smaller than the piece you would use for bleach test. Then crush it and put your finger in the powder and place on the front of your tongue. If the powder tastes bitter but takes a couple of seconds to really taste it then its most likely fake. But if it travels through your whole mouth and you taste it real quickly as it mildly numbs your tongue and you feel the urge to spit it out…its real meth. It’s super bitter and you’ll know it immediately once it hits your tongue.
**Liquefy Test**
Obviously all smokers know about crack back and most of them know how to read it. For those who don’t,here is a quick note. You need to pay attention to how long it takes for the shards to melt into a puddle, once they’ve melted smoke will form. Now take the flame off and pay real close attention to how long it takes fort he puddle to turn into a solid chunk at the bottom of the bubble. That’s the difference. See the nice thing about ISO is that it has a different melting point. Obviously a different crack back pattern, but you can just ignore that for now. It’s not even needed. ISO melts at 200 degrees Celsius while meth melts at 175 degrees Celsius. Smokers should notice this right away, it takes longer to melt down, in fact it barely does. Then when you remove the flame from the glass, it will crack back within seconds, almost immediately. Decent quality meth will crack back in about 4-8 seconds. Cut up meth takes about 7-15 seconds and beyond that…ugh.
**Drawback Test** (for IV users)
If you prefer to bang your meth, here’s a pretty simple test for you. Grab your spoon/cooker, a clean rig in case it’s real, clean cottons and sterile water. Weigh out a point (100 mg) of the suspected ISO and put it into the spoon keeping it in crystal form. Now draw up exactly 20 units of water. Add the water to the crystals. The smaller pieces will dissolve pretty easy but you’ll need to use the orange cap to crush up and stir the mixture to turn it into a completely liquid solution. Now all the chunks are gone and it looks clear and kind of syrupy or like thin gel. Add the cotton and draw up the solution through it, remembering to squeeze out the cotton to get every last unit. It will draw up eventually, (using 31 g) slower than water but not molasses. Now push all of the air out and look how much solution is now in the syringe. If it’s 29-31 units, sorry but go ahead and toss it out, it’s isopropylbenzylamine. If this test had totally different results then it’s definitely not ISO and maybe either legit meth or some other cut. Meth should double the amount being drawn back.
**Bleach Test**
This is a somewhat controversial method but if you look for one characteristic it’s clear wether it’s meth or not. First get a shot glass or similar glass container (baby food jar) and fill with bleach, Then take a BB sized crystal from the bag and drop it in the glass. Now the most important part is the oily spot created on the surface when the real meth dissolves. If you see that then you know that you have real meth. If it just sinks to the bottom, doesn’t dissolve, breaks apart a little, moves around the glass or most importantly leaves no oily whitish patch on the surface, you know its some fake garbage. Most people have witnessed meth to “dance around” a bit, so don’t think it’s fake just because of that, the key here is the oily spot on the surface of the bleach.
==========Advice and Help with Possible Situations==========
It’s highly advised that isopropylbenzylamine or any of it’s variants should never be ingested by any route of administration. There is very little known information about this chemical and the information available is scarce and hard to find. Most side effects aren’t scientifically proven or confirmed. Therefore it is NOT SAFE and you should definitely NOT TAKE THIS CHEMICAL. However if you decide that you feel you need to try it, please use the safest methods to give yourself the best chance possible with your experiences to come.
Harm reduction…
Always start out with low does like 30mg (one third of a tenth of a gram, not point three grams, that might kill you) and work your way up in small increments that you’re comfortable with. Users have been affected by severe side effects from doses ranging from 40mg to 150mg. It’s common knowledge that you can’t take drugs out of your body, but can put more in. This is no exception. Another good idea is to have someone with you while you experiment with this chemical and being in a safe and comfortable environment. You need to remember that this is a completely different chemical than methamphetamine. Yes it looks like it and acts like it and even has some of the same properties. But it IS different. Methamphetamine and other stimulants have been around for a long time and they have been heavily tested in many areas. The side effects, good and bad, are understood with these drugs,
although they are not totally safe to use, at least you know the risks associated with them. With ISO, almost all of the important information like pleasurable or lethal reactions are unknown. Why mess with it and put your life in danger and take the risks? Here are just a few risks so far:
**Panic or anxiety attack occurs**
You will know because you are having high anxiety, fear or terror, sweating, trembling, hot or cold flashes, shortness of breath, numb or tingling and detachment from reality or feeling like life is surreal.
Most of the side effects of a panic/anxiety attack are similar to those of ISO. However the detachment from reality, cold flashes, and being terrified are almost always found in the panic/anxiety http://attacks. To treat this you can use quick acting benzodiazepines such as Ativan, Xanax and Valium. Those will help immensely and are always a first priority with most people that have them available. Always try to have a benzo available. You should probably stay away from pills such as Trazodone , SSRIs (anti-depressant) and any stimulants. Also avoid cigarettes, caffeine, stress, public places or stimulating environments. If panic attackis left untreated, you may begin to feel you are having cardiac arrest. It’s important to distinguish the symptoms between the two, as we really don’t know for sure if ISO causes heart attacks or not. If left untreated even longer you may eventually calm down or your symptoms may worsen. Go to the emergency room if panic attack lasts over an hour or if you can’t calm down by yourself.
**Experiencing serious side effects**
If you are experiencing these and don’t have a good feeling about what’s happening to you now, you need to first just relax and lay down in a slightly upright position. Try real hard not to think about how your heart is beating differently and the strange feelings that come with it. It will cause increased anxiety and make things worse if you let it happen. As long as you don’t have shortness of breath, it helps to use breathing exercises. If you can’t breathe or even have shallow breathing, lay
down for awhile with your arms resting above your head until you can breathe. If able to breathe, here’s a good breathing exercise I use a lot: Inhale through your nose slow and deep for about 5 seconds, then hold it for 2 seconds. Exhale through your mouth lasting 5 seconds and completely empty your lungs, hold it 2 more seconds Repeat this about 8 times/2 minutes/until you feel calm and heart rate has slowed down to 80 BPM or less. Remember to drink sufficient amounts of water and always eat when you can. You can use marijuana if you’re able to, but don’t use too much if you don’t have tolerance to it. Might not turn out too well.
There are other medications you can use to help you reverse some of the negative side effects. However none have been tested in any kind of approved experiments. They have been used by other people and they were able to help them out. But if you don’t feel you NEED to take medications then you probably shouldn’t. The main goals are to make sure you are hydrated, eat some nutritious food and get some sleep. It’s probably been a day or two since you’ve slept and your body needs that restoration that sleep provides. If other methods or medications haven’t worked, wait an hour or so to be sure none of the pills had a delayed reaction. After an hour if you feel that you’re still dying and need to go to a hospital, please go. Explain to the medical professionals what happened but be totally honest. They can’t help you if they don’t know what happened.
All meds listed should be used one at a time (because of the drug interactions) and the dosage is for the average person with no tolerance. Before you take any of these do a little research online if you are not experienced with them. Be safe. Here are a few that have worked before:
Neurontin (gabapentin) 1200mg-2000mg—Helps snap you out of high and increases mood.
Seroquel (quetiapine) 25mg-100mg—An anti-psychotic generally used for sleep and bi-polar.
Xanax (alprazolam) 1mg-3mg—Quick acting but short action benzodiazepineused for anxiety.
Klonopin (clonazepam) 1mg-2mg—-Longer lasting than Xanax but takes a little longer for onset.
Valium (diazepam) 10mg-30mg—More of a relaxing type of anti anxiety medication
Ativan (lorazepam) 2mg-4mg—The middle between Xanax and Klonopin, benzodiazepine.
Ambien (zolpidem) 10mg-20mg—Prescription sleeping pill. Should knock you out.
Regular strength aspirin 250mg—Just used to help open blood vessels and lower blood pressure.
Medications that will have adverse effects on you and should always be avoided are:
SSRIs (anti depressants like Prozac, Celexa and Zoloft)
Stimulants (meth, Adderall, Dexadrine, MDMA, cocaine, even caffeine for now)
Desyrel(trazodone, avoid at all costs)
Hallucinogens (LSD, DMT, PCP, DXM etc..)
Remember to avoid all of the medication listed, they usually make things worse. Stick with the ones that have worked for most people in the past. Just remember to relax, breathe, think good things, drink water, eat food and get some sleep. When you wake up it should be over and now hopefully you’ll realize how toxic and dangerous this research chemical can be and never use it again.
**Missing a shot**
If a shot is missed, start applying heat to area where the shot was missed soon as you can to help absorption into muscle tissue. There will be a large, burning, red lump around the injection site if missed. Massage the area to help the drug get absorbed faster. If any components of your shot were dirty it will cause an infection and develop into an abscess. *PLEASE* seek medical attention if lump becomes more painful, larger, gets extremely hot and you start to get a fever, chills or excessive sweating. Untreated abscesses can result in serious consequences such as the loss of a limb and even death.
**Getting high again, not on purpose**
When higher doses are taken (150 mg and above) most people will experience the comedown and feel normal again after being high but then about 3-4 hours after the hit was taken the high comes back. It’s similar to the original high but with only the negative aspects. The better feelings from the beginning are almost completely gone. However it’s not as intense as before. It’s more refined, having less negative side effects like the shaky hands, crazy teeth chattering and confusion. But it can still be difficult to perform normal tasks. Talking with anyone that doesn’t know about you getting high will soon realize something is weird about you. That’s because with the second high (for some reason) makes you act and talk a lot more strange, like you’re trying real hard not to be some crazy tweaker but are obviously failing. Going in public places like gas stations or driving any vehicles may also be challenging, although no reports of good or bad driving experiences have been heard. Being on the safe side considering the side effects, it’s advised not to drive. Any dose higher than 200 mg has almost always (98%) proven to be very dangerous and in no way recreational or enjoyable.
==========Random Advice and Information==========
-Nearly a perfect analogue of methamphetamine
-Usually fools most people at time of purchase
-Differences initially noticed when ingested
-Patterns of huge batches being distributed every 3 years lasting for approx. a year and a half
-Not currently is and has never been officially tested on humans (except us I guess…)
-Someone seems to be intentionally hiding important information from us, websites that previously had information like side effects and warnings are now unavailable or offline, threads and posts on forums are deleted or closed, only useless chemical properties are available online
-Usually imitates meth and is not used as a cutting agent
-Can be mixed in with legit meth to cut smaller amounts as crystals are nearly identical
-Cannot be removed using acetone or water. You need a mixture of chloroform and ethanol. -If it’s marquis reagent tested for approx. 30 seconds it shows false positive for amphetamines.
-Puddle gradually turns from clear to cloudy to brown to black when smoked
-Takes longer to melt and cracks back almost instantly
-Has different crack back pattern than meth does
-Tested in labs on rats by injection which ended up dying
-Potentially dangerous and toxic effects on humans
-Higher doses can cause people to feel as if they’re having a heart attack, dying and/or body is slowly shutting down while they inevitably wait for death
-So far no positive effects on health have been observed, but no extensive research has been done
-Considered organic chemical, belongs in class of amines
-Supposedly is an antagonist of melanocortin-4 receptors
-Unable to treat people with ADD/ADHD, it doesn’t seem to be a stimulant like amphetamines
-Seems somewhat like a stimulant, but plausible it’s a different type of stimulant. One that has more of the negative effects of stimulants and like two of the good effects
-Unlike amphetamines you’re able to eat a little and sleep during and after a mild high, can usually sleep after an intense high just probably not during
-Doesn’t have any known acute or post acute withdrawal symptoms besides the cravings
-Suspected of causing dementia in people with extended use
-Too much ISO causes side effects which create a more terrifying and dangerous experience than it’s worth
-Currently has legal status (mid 2014)
Note that I believe that ISO has not been place on the list of illegal drugs
-First found in huge shipments from Mexico by DEA in 2007
-Has attention of the DEA as potential drug cutting agent
-Ethylbenzylamine and Methylbenzylamine are other chemical variants that have also been released but n-isopropylbenzylamine is the closest to meth in every way so it became the most popular
-Suspicious and strange feelings have been associated with it
-Not advised to go out in public while “high”, you will look seriously tweaked out
-Similar cravings to meth, can be more intense at times
-Has potential for severe mental addiction
-Usually mistaken as badly MSM cut meth
-Also known as: ISO, sleepy dope, cut, Nope, fake meth and dust
-Once identified, discontinue use immediately and discard of substance.
Pictures of fake shit
See how the light reflects from a crystal face that’s as flat as a plane of glass? Real methamphetamine doesn’t do this. Sometimes it will be flat on one side from whatever container the crystals were made in, but in that case, it’s really obvious. I can’t show you the difference with real methamphetamine, since I have none of that.
FAKE FAKE FAKE
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